Onto Batman...

[neotoma]

so, sanj, ellen_fremedon and I were talking today as we walked from the Takoma Folk Festival, and the question came up of "what House does Batman sort into"?

ellen_fremedon brought up that you really have to take his personae into account here. There is 'Bruce Wayne the playboy', Batman, and the combination that is the real Bruce Wayne.

'Bruce Wayne', the silly role that Batman fronts to the world is, pretty much a Gryffindor in the eager-but-dim-puppy school. No one thinks he's dangerous, or even observant.

Batman, on the other hand, is an angry Ravenclaw. sanj was most firm on this -- *angry*, then Ravenclaw. Yojimbo was brought up for comparison.

The combined, *actual* personality of Bruce Wayne is, of course, Slytherin. Terrifyingly so.

Of course, we can't leave out Hufflepuff. That's Dick Grayson. And Superman. And Wonder Woman too, come to think of it.

Batman needs a lot of Hufflepuffs to sit on him, apparently.

Comments

[sanj.livejournal.com]

Fun to see you!

I think who had which point might be swapped, up there, but we talk all this crap out together anyway. ;)

Dick = Hufflepuff, okay, but I am not buying Superman or Wonder Woman, so you had better get selling....

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Superman, the guy who gets Batman to work with the Justice League... you think he's *not* a Hufflepuff? He's all about hard work, doing the job that needs doing, and good sense (http://imadra-blue.livejournal.com/39371.html).

Wonder Woman is a bit of a harder stretch, but she's also a good team-builder and more about working together for a better future instead of beating shit out of people because their stupidity is pissing her off.

[sanj.livejournal.com]

Okay, I'm buying your Superman argument, though he's always seemed to be very Gryffindor to me: stereotypically so, which is how he and Batman come to so much grief with each other whenever Superman tries to use Metropolis tactics in Gotham.

Then again, your point that he not only founded the JLA, but convinced Batman to play on his team, is a very good one. Though I don't actually think there would be a gathering of the spandex crew's Major Players that Batman would miss, because that's too much concentrated potential power for -- he's got to get invited to the asskicking party keep an eye on it.

Tenacious loyalty, anyway, which puts him in either Hufflepuff or Gryffindor, depending on his reasons. I guess I just don't see him tending to work with and through other people as much as, say, Nightwing does, but he definitely fights because he identifies himself with a group of particular people -- and Luthor is his archenemy because he's trying to deny him of his humanity and his place with those people.

So, maybe, yeah. :)

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Well, there's also the bravery aspect. Superman's not really *brave* in the conventional sense; there's not much that can physically harm him on this *planet*.

[tricksterquinn.livejournal.com]

I'd like to point out here that the reason I'd peg Superman as a Gryffindor is his santimoniousness (it's a word, shut up!), not his bravery.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Uhm, Hufflepuffs are conformists, and can be quite firm about enforcing the rules. Generally it is through guilt-trips and social isolation, but Superman is a bit more active than that

[tricksterquinn.livejournal.com]

...which is why I would've probably said he was a Gryffindor. ^_^

[immora.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'd have to agree that Batman is an angry Ravenclaw! So would you say that Tim Drake is a Ravenclaw with his mad Batman identity determining skills?

Wonder Woman as a Hufflepuff though, hrmm... That one I have to think about more.

[gehayi.livejournal.com]

Based on my memories of Wonder Woman comic books, I think that she's a very brave, very loyal and very kinky Hufflepuff. I say "kinky" because every single cover that I remember from my childhood showed her tied up or chained. I think that Wonder Woman was my first exposure to the concept of bondage.

Supes is a Gryffindor--the sort who thinks that if he's doing it, it MUST be all right. Kind of like Hermione in OotP and HBP. Hermione is usually one of the good guys, brave and determined and willing to risk her life for what she feels is right...but she can also do things that I utterly despise and feel fully justified.

(For proof that Superman has a darker side, check out the Superman is a Dick (http://www.superdickery.com/dick/1.html) covers over at Superdickery.com. I'll wait.)

[murasaki99.livejournal.com]

I agree, the more Hufflepuffs around Batman, the better! And he better not hook up with Snape. Ever. 0_o

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

heh... if Severus could get rid of the pettiness that trips him up all the time, he'd be a lot like Batman, wouldn't he?