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neotoma ([personal profile] neotoma) wrote2005-07-03 09:09 am

The Problem of Count Dooku

Count Dooku is a character that causes some problems when contemplating the SW universe.

He's a member of the Republic aristocracy, a Jedi who resigned from the Order, and a Sith. His surface goals are noble -- the Separatist movement had a lot of sense behind it in hindsight, even if the leaders were mostly loathsome and self-interested -- and yet he's working for one of the most calculating and devious of politicians.

But from the movies themselves, it's very hard to tell what his motivations are. He's more of a stock villain than anything else, and that makes for a thin backstory at best.

Personally, I think he was listening to the will of the Force, filtered and distorted through his own emotions. He'd gotten caught up in the Jedi habit of thinking the ends justify the means, and the end he wanted (a renewed Republic?) justified some very nasty means, indeed.

Dooku must have been magnificent once, as he was Yoda's students and Qui-Gon's master, and I doubt that you could deal with either one of them, let alone both, without being something quite amazing yourself. He's still quite impressive when Obi-Wan encounters him in AotC, as he's managed to get all the diverse interests that make up the Separatists following *him*.

The fact that he and Palpatine were running a two-man con on such a massive scale was pretty damned impressive, even if Dooku was foolish enough to believe that Palpatine wouldn't turn on him when it was convenient. I wonder if Dooku thought by causing an external problem, that the Republic would sort itself out and revitalize?

Was he also hoping to shake the Jedi Order up? Destroy the Sith from the inside? He actually asks Obi-Wan to join him to that end in AotC, which suggests that Dooku still thought of himself as not-a-Sith. He tells Obi-Wan the exact truth, that the Republic is under control of Darth Sidious -- neglecting to mention that Sidious is Palpatine -- and yet goes to Palpatine and happily confirms that war has started.

Combine with the implications that Dooku was the one to arrange for the creation of the Clone Army ten years before AotC -- or shortly after TPM if you are keeping your eye on the timeline -- the sense I get out of all this is that Dooku was a rogue agent.

He was *trying* to bring down the Sith, and trying to reform the Republic by force. It's just that his method was to go outside the Jedi Order and the Senate authority and act as a lone wolf.

In the end, he was magnificent and brave and so wrong-headed as to make one weep. His failure was a failure of the Jedi as a whole -- arrogance to the point of horror, self-reliance to the point of foolishness, and callous indifference to suffering to the point of disaster.

[identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
As far as I can tell, compassion is not a virtue the Jedi emphasize at all. They are about *justice*, not mercy -- even Qui-Gon who was often a maverick in how he went about things, is quite ruthless when he wants to be -- andjustice doesn't leaven itself for individual circumstances. Mercy is the thing which allows for people's individual circumstances and mistakes.

But yes, the Jedi had a bad habit of seeing the big picture, and forgetting that a big picture is usually made up of many small pictures. Change at the small scale can often blossom into transformation on the large.

[identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Anakin does state repetively that compassion and mercy is their goal, but they were falling behind it. Caught up on the big picture like you said, could see the smaller pictures. It was their failing, I think.

[identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Compassion and mercy might be their stated goals, but that is not what they actually practice. Obi-Wan, love him though I do, is the hard edge of a sword, even as an old man; what compassion he has is for those he regards as Jedi. All others are obstacles or victims to be rescued, not people to commiserate with.

I think part of the problem is that Old Republic Jedi were a culture, and one that limited attachment to outsiders from a very young age. They knew Senate politics and overarching social concerns, but I doubt many of them got sent on missions as simple as helping building schools and hospitals, or anything that got them in touch with regular people much.

[identity profile] imadra-blue.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I do agree that generally, their practice falls short. It's an ideal they don't live up to. It's what makes them so fascinating, imho.